We Fight So You Don’t Have To

Hosted ByLiz Fenton and Lisa Steinke

BFFs and co-authors Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke share lessons from their thirty-year friendship. Basically, they fight so you don’t have to.


All Episodes

Episode 30| Failing Forward

Liz and Lisa continue the series about facing rejection as authors. In this episode, they focus on how they’ve each coped with the tremendous amount of “we’re going to step aside” emails they’ve received from editors. How they wrote not one, but two full manuscripts and neither has yet...

Episode 29 | Coming Out Of The Rejection Closet

This is part one of Liz and Lisa’s series about the rejection they’ve faced in the publishing world. The subject of failing as an author (or anything else) is often taboo, but Liz and Lisa are ready to spill the tea on how hard the last two years have...

Episode 28 | Mango a Go-Go

A missing cat. An awkward group text. A fight. Liz and Lisa are now achingly familiar with the phrase, toxic positivity and you’ll find out why they now think twice before declaring to anyone that “It’s going to be okay!” Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa...

Episode 27 | The Best Friend Game

Liz and Lisa put their thirty-year knowledge of one another to the ultimate test. Does Lisa know Liz’s favorite color? Does Liz know how many speeding tickets Lisa has? And which one would want to be a lion if they could be an animal? Have a comment? A question?...

Episode 26 | And Just Like That. . . We’ve Aged

Find out why Liz had to stop watching the first episode of the new series based on Sex and the City and why, after talking with Lisa about it on this podcast, she’s ready to press play again. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com...

Episode 25: Liz & Lisa take Italy: Part 2

How did Mike Fenton almost die? Who is Vincenzo? And why do we like the European version of ourselves wayyy better than the American? Listen to find out! Have a question? Comment? Idea? Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.

Episode 24: Before we meet again: Italy Part 1

Liz and Lisa didn’t spend the entire trip to Italy together for a reason (Think: Previous slightly disastrous vacay to Grand Cayman: Episode 19). Find out what European adventures we had before we saw each other on the Amalfi Coast.

Episode 23 | Life can be ruff

Liz and Lisa have seven rescue dogs and one cat between them. (Lisa has two dogs and Liz has the rest. You do the math!) And now, Liz has taken in a German Shepard and needs an intervention ASAP. Can Lisa talk some sense into her? Have a question?...

Episode 22 | Mike Fenton vs. the Pool Chairs

Liz’s husband, Mike Fenton, whom we always call by his first and last name got his five minutes of Instagram fame during a recent trip to Cabo when he secured pool chairs like it was an Olympic sport. Liz chronicled his 6 am chair-claiming-talents in her stories and women...